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Jumpinjarhead's avatar

While true supernatural born again Christianity of the Gospel of Scripture is a personal, 1-on-1 relationship between the believer and God rather than a “religion.” As Christians we are told in God’s Word to be i fellowship with other believers.

I know so nany who profess to be “christians” but eschew this fellowship (usually making generalizations about “church” being unnecessary) such that they are effectively outside the protection and fellowship of other believers from the continuing wiles of safan.

That is not what Scripture models for us in the early church of Acts etc. or discussed in the epistles. It is also an open door for that old human nature to creep back in as pride.

Acts 2:42:

“All the believers devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching, and to fellowship, and to sharing in meals (including the Lord’s Supper) and to prayer."

Hebrews 10:24-25:

"Let us think of ways to motivate one another to acts of love and good works. And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near."

1 John 1:7:

"But if we are living in the light, as God is in the light, then we have fellowship with each other, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, cleanses us from all sin."

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

Tell me what is born again, the meaning?

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

“Born again” means receiving new spiritual life through the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, which happens only after someone believes the gospel of salvation.

According to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, the gospel is this: Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, was buried, and rose again the third day. When a person believes this with their heart—not just intellectually but trusting fully in Christ’s finished work—they are immediately sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13).

That’s when the new birth happens. Jesus said in John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." He was telling Nicodemus, a Jewish teacher under the law, that no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless they are born of the Spirit.

But the mystery of how that actually happens—by grace through faith in the finished work of Christ—was later revealed through Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles (Romans 16:25). That’s when the full meaning of being “born again” was made clear: it's the moment you are made alive in Christ (Ephesians 2:1), not by works, not by baptism, not by trying—but simply by believing.

So, to be born again is to go from spiritual death to spiritual life—from being a child of Adam to being sealed as a child of God (Galatians 4:6). And once you're born again, you're sealed forever—Once Saved, Always Saved (John 10:28-29).

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

Also, explain who exactly is "the Holy Spirit" name?

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Lol You ask questions that are easily known if you had any biblical knowledge of conxet and timelines.. Its why youre an ignorant lost soul. ive provided enough breadcrumbs for you to find salvation and learn these things. Go put on your big boy pants and get to studying..

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

The problem is you have not done research outside of mainstream BS! One cannot be religious and spiritual at the same time! Which in do you think you are? :)

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

You keep throwing around buzzwords like “mainstream BS” and “religion vs. spirituality” as if you’ve cracked some divine mystery—but it's painfully obvious you’ve done zero deep research into actual biblical truth, manuscript evidence, or the origin of your own so-called “spirituality.”

Let me clear something up for you: I’m not religious. I’m saved. Religion is man reaching up to God through works and ritual. Salvation is God reaching down to man through grace. Christ didn’t come to play spiritual guru—He came to be the Lamb of God who taketh away the sin of the world (John 1:29). And yes, that means sin is real, judgment is real, and salvation is necessary.

You say one can’t be religious and spiritual at the same time? No kidding. That’s why I dropped the religious nonsense and got sealed by the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13) by trusting the finished work of Jesus Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4). That’s real spirituality, not the recycled Gnostic garbage you're peddling.

You accuse others of not researching outside the “mainstream,” but let’s be honest—you’re parroting mainstream new age propaganda. I’ve been studying the occult, MKUltra, monarch programming, subliminal media control, and the Luciferian infiltration of every global system since you were likely still chasing crystals and pyramids OR even born as Im 50 and knew of these things since I was 12 years old! I wasnt brought up Christian either, the opposite, never went to a "church", I came to my OWN conclusion through studying DATA.

You think quoting Billy Carson or channeling Blavatsky makes you enlightened? That’s low-level deception 101. I was dissecting Alice Bailey and the Lucifer Trust’s UN infiltration while you were still wondering why astrology doesn’t work on your ex. I've read the theosophical and newage garbage. I’ve cross-referenced the manuscript lines, traced the Antioch vs. Alexandrian stream, and watched how new age “truthers” just plagiarize each other in a loop of intellectual self-gratification.

And frankly, I’ve forgotten more than you know. You’re not qualified to challenge this conversation, let alone redefine truth. You’ve made it painfully clear that you’re not seeking truth—you’re seeking a self-validating echo chamber to justify rejecting God's Word.

Here’s the blunt truth: you’re not spiritual—you’re lost. You’ve traded the real Holy Spirit for counterfeit illumination. Your “research” has led you to confusion, pride, and rebellion against the only truth that can save you. If you want to keep trolling and dodging the gospel, that’s on you. But don’t mistake intellectual laziness for enlightenment.

This is the end of the road unless you're ready to deal with truth. You’ve been given the gospel. If you reject it, the blood’s off my hands.

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

You really don’t know the truth brotha!

Sorry but the current KJ Bible has over 140,000 changes made to it originating or compared to the Sinai Bible.

This means omission (such as the Ethiopian Bible which has 88 books instead of the 60 books on our current version. This means plagiarism, omissions, made up stories, direct copies of ancient texts such as the Emerald tablets dating back over 30,000 yrs ago. Made from an indestructible material not found in Earth written by Thoth (where there word Thought originated)

He wrote it himself so no question about interpretation such as is with the current bibles. There are writings that are identical copied in our current bibles! I’ve researched this for over 30 yrs! And many of the things I know came from people who have over 40 yrs of research such as Jordan Maxwell

And Billy Carson has a lot of truth to what he discloses on his podcasts and videos

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Jumpinjarhead's avatar

I have no idea what you are going on about but thanks for trying.

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Also: There’s no scientific or scriptural basis for “30,000 years ago.” That number comes from secular assumptions, not observable data or God’s preserved Word. The so-called "Emerald Tablets" are occult myths—not divinely inspired truth. Belief in such myths leads people away from Christ, not toward Him.

Instead, trust the Word of God, which has stood the test of time and aligns with real evidence. Life didn’t emerge over millions of years—it began with God's spoken word, and human history began with Adam, not Thoth.

The Bible gives us a historical timeline. According to Scripture, the Earth is around 6,000 years old, with Noah’s Flood occurring about 4,500 years ago. Before the flood, people lived for centuries (Genesis 5), but after the flood, lifespans rapidly declined. The Tower of Babel, the dispersion of nations, and the birth of civilizations followed soon after. There is no room in God’s timeline for civilizations or writings going back 30,000 years.

DNA is fragile. It degrades rapidly due to water, oxygen, microbes, and even time itself. Peer-reviewed studies on ancient DNA (like in Moa bird bones) show that DNA decays too quickly to survive for tens of thousands—let alone millions—of years.

Mitochondrial Eve & Y-Chromosome Adam—Genetic studies based on observed mutation rates show that all modern humans descend from a common male and female ancestor roughly 6,000 years ago, which perfectly matches the Genesis account.

Genetic Entropy—Dr. John Sanford’s work shows that mutations accumulate over time in a way that should cause extinction in long evolutionary timescales. This supports a young age for life, not millions of years.

Carbon-14 in dinosaur bones and fossil samples claimed to be millions of years old has been found—this should not be possible if those samples were truly ancient. It’s strong evidence that they’re much younger than claimed.

DNA Barcoding of animal species worldwide shows that most species appeared at the same time, not gradually. That’s consistent with a post-Flood repopulation event, not deep evolutionary time.

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I truly appreciate your passion for research, but there are several serious inaccuracies in your comment that need to be addressed with biblical and historical clarity.

1. “The KJV Bible has over 140,000 changes!”

This claim is misleading. The King James Bible is based on the Majority Text (also called the Textus Receptus), which comes from the preserved manuscript line passed down through Antioch—not Egypt. Variants you’re referring to usually come from Alexandrian manuscripts like the Codex Sinaiticus and Vaticanus—manuscripts known to be corrupted, with numerous contradictions and omissions. The 140,000 “changes” you mention often refer to comparisons between corrupt Alexandrian manuscripts and the Received Text, not revisions within the KJV itself.

2. “The Ethiopian Bible has 88 books, not 66”

That’s true—but quantity does not equal legitimacy. The canon of Scripture was recognized based on apostolic authority, doctrinal consistency, and Holy Spirit inspiration. The 66 books of the Bible were not chosen arbitrarily, but preserved by God (Psalm 12:6-7). Adding apocryphal books or non-inspired texts like Jubilees or Enoch—which contain false doctrines—leads to confusion and error.

3. “Emerald Tablets and Thoth wrote the original truths”

This is occult doctrine, not Christian truth. The so-called “Emerald Tablets of Thoth” are tied to hermeticism and new age mysticism, not biblical Christianity. Thoth is a pagan deity from Egyptian mythology—not a real historical person. The Bible expressly warns against mixing with these ideas: “Let no man beguile you of your reward... intruding into those things which he hath not seen...” (Colossians 2:18, KJV).

4. “Current Bibles are plagiarized ancient texts”

The Bible is God-breathed (2 Timothy 3:16), written by over 40 authors across 1,500 years, yet perfectly unified in its message: Jesus Christ came to save sinners (1 Timothy 1:15). The idea that it plagiarizes from pagan texts is a claim often pushed by skeptics without actual manuscript support. Similarities in themes across cultures reflect mankind’s shared history after Babel, not plagiarism.

5. Trust in Teachers Like Jordan Maxwell and Billy Carson

With respect, both of these individuals teach a blend of Gnostic, New Age, and occult doctrines, not biblical truth. The Bible warns in 2 Timothy 4:3-4 that in the last days, people will “heap to themselves teachers” who tell them what they want to hear, turning from truth to myths. Always test every teaching by Scripture—not by how “deep” or “ancient” it sounds.

Bottom line: the KJV Bible stands alone as the preserved, inspired Word of God in English—based on the trustworthy Majority Text passed down by faithful believers, not from corrupted Egyptian manuscripts. Salvation is not found in ancient myths or hidden wisdom but in the gospel of 1 Corinthians 15:1-4: Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again. Believe that—and you're saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13).

With love and truth in Christ—I encourage you to test all things through the lens of God’s preserved Word.

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HagarTHorrible's avatar

I am LEARNING! I am an old wandering Catholic, but nothing in my upbringing tells me that I can't learn from where ever the LESSONS emmanate. I learn, and I attempt to teach, my family. They haven't uncovered the source of the experiences of our Jesus...as yet. The books don't tell them where to look...within themselves. But they will learn away from the vices of Satan...they will learn as I did. Trust in Jesus...He is the Way, the Light, and the Truth. Jesus will be understood!

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Stephanie Hart's avatar

I too grew up Catholic and really I felt like being Catholic set me and my friends apart, we were part of the “one true church”. I believed all the man made rules, listened to the same epistles and gospels every Sunday without ever reading the Bible (we did not even have bibles in our classrooms in Catholic school!). We learned/memorized catechism. We followed the rules. We felt guilty while we told our sins to a man, and then he gave us forgiveness!! Geez… I met my divorced husband and thank God he brought me away from that denomination (they would not marry us!). We attend a wonderful bible church, a church OF JESUS! After all these years I am making up for so much lost time, feel I know the perfect triune God as my Creator, Savior, and Comforter! ❣️

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Jumpinjarhead's avatar

I am so joyous you found the Truth and see the huge difference between true Christianity and “religion.”

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Jumpinjarhead's avatar

God’s Word is where we must look and if the Holy Spirit has opened our spiritual eyes we will see and understand what God has said about becoming a born again Christian through the supernatural power of God—not by our trying to “do good” or following some formula created by humans.

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Sir Tom of Northfield's avatar

That is beautiful. It describes my 'religion' perfectly. I haven't been to "church" in years. And yet...

Thank you.

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Doug's avatar

I’m enjoying your fantastic ride. It’s like a thriller where you know the ending, but you’ve never made the journey, you’ve never stopped to study the trodden grass or listened to the sound of dew forming on the grass. Thank you for your visual and mind imageries.

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paul's avatar

I read Eko's stories. They make me think. Not preachy. Just good stories.

Ok, I'm whatever. I liked going to church when I was a kid. It was interesting. Then someone got on me for only putting a nickle in the collection plate. My allowance was all of 25 cents a week, cut me some slack. After that it just felt like "show up and give us money".

I don't need Church. I don't need to be lectured at. I can read the book for myself.

I don't need to explain ever why I think God is everywhere.

Just look. Puppies, trees leafing in the Spring, leaves falling before Winter. The feel of walking on grass and then some stupid ant bites you. Warm winds in Summer. Winds to freeze your delicate parts off in Winter. You know what I mean.

Going to a restaurant and all of the little kids are watching me. Why are toddlers looking and often raising there arms as to be picked up? My friends noticed, so it not me feeling odd. I can't explain it....

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EKO's avatar

Paul, you get it.

God in puppies and grass and even ant bites. And those toddlers see something in you. Probably the same thing you see everywhere else: the sacred refusing to hide.

No church required when creation itself is the cathedral.

<3EKO

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Ca's avatar

"No church required when creation itself is the cathedral." Thank you for that!

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bartb's avatar

“One of the main functions of organized religion is to protect people against a direct experience of God.” - Carl Jung

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Bill Campbell's avatar

Beautiful. You know you are going to rock the gate keepers with your last few lines. Leave Church? Blasphemy. Did Jesus ever accuse anyone of that?

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George Williams's avatar

Absolutely. Spot. On.

Thank you, once again.

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Valerie Freel's avatar

Follow Jesus! That’s the secret. That’s when my life was transformed and life became filled with joy and peace! I loved this piece you wrote !

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

The most important point of ALL scripture is to get saved by trusting in Jesus's SACRIFICE for sins! THAT is the MYSTERY revealed to Paul FROM Jesus after His ressurection. That is the MOST IMPORTANT part of scripture leading to our current time: trust 1 Corinthians 15 1-4 and apply His sacrifice to your personal sins as the payment, otherwie NOTHINg else matters.

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Lighteagle 2012's avatar

What is the real failure in all the religions trying to play at presenting what they say the true Gospel is?

2 Thessalonians 1:11-12 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of His goodness, and the work of faith with power: That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

This is the true Gospel that was preached in all of Israel when Jesus walked the earth. The Work of Faith with Power! What was the entirety of the the Gospel Message being preached BEFORE Jesus ever even died on the Cross?!! It WASN'T that He was dead, buried and resurrected, obviously!

Why do you think these verses exists?

Romans 1:16  For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ (the Anointing): for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

Romans 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; so that from Jerusalem, and round about unto Illyricum, I have fully preached the gospel of Christ (the Anointing).

Why do you think that exact Greek word Christos was untranslated in all the King James Bibles and used to hide the meaning of the one word that means Anointed One, i.e. CHRIST!

What did John the Baptist say?!

Mat 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire. (The actual literal, unedited, translation here says "fire of the Holy Ghost".)

Luke 3:16 says the same thing.

The Mormons don't have it. The 7th Day Adventist don't have it. The Jehovah's Witnesses even say that miracles ministry has all passed away! Even the Southern Baptist tell that exact same thing!

When you read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, what "GOSPEL that was preached" are they talking about everywhere that word is said in those four Gospel’s BEFORE Jesus ever died on the Cross?! Hmmm?!

Act 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Is your thing called "Church" even telling you what the Gospel really is?

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

You cannot believe the current KJ Bible! It has been changed over 140,000 times!

You really don’t know the truth brotha!

Sorry but the current KJ Bible has over 140,000 changes made to it originating or compared to the Sinai Bible.

This means omission (such as the Ethiopian Bible which has 88 books instead of the 60 books on our current version. This means plagiarism, omissions, made up stories, direct copies of ancient texts such as the Emerald tablets dating back over 30,000 yrs ago. Made from an indestructible material not found in Earth written by Thoth (where there word Thought originated)

He wrote it himself so no question about interpretation such as is with the current bibles. There are writings that are identical copied in our current bibles! I’ve researched this for over 30 yrs! And many of the things I know came from people who have over 40 yrs of research such as Jordan Maxwell

And Billy Carson has a lot of truth to what he discloses on his podcasts and videos

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Thank you for sharing this heartfelt piece—it reflects a deep desire for connection with God, and I sincerely appreciate that. But I’d like to gently but firmly clarify some crucial points from Scripture that are being overlooked here.

The article makes a poetic contrast between the “religion OF Jesus” and the “religion ABOUT Jesus,” but it misses the heart of the gospel itself: You must be saved. And that only happens when someone believes the gospel as laid out in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4—that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again the third day. That’s not optional or symbolic; it’s essential.

Jesus’ earthly ministry, as He Himself said, was only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matthew 15:24). He was offering the literal Kingdom of Heaven to Israel. His teachings about the kingdom being “within you” were spoken to Jews under the law before the cross, before the mystery of the gospel was revealed. also its relating to the Holy Spirit dwelling withing those who TRUSTED JESUS AS MESSIAH then o the Jews and afterwards to those who trusted in the death burial and ressurection, ie Christians.

It wasn't until after His death, burial, and resurrection that the gospel of grace was revealed to Paul—by Jesus Himself (Galatians 1:11-12) who He then instructed paul to go to both Jew AND gentile to belive for salvation. That gospel tells us that the moment we believe, we are sealed with the Holy Spirit (Ephesians 1:13). The Holy Spirit does not dwell in everyone by default. That sealing happens ONLY after belief in the gospel. Everyone who rejects that is lost and there is NO indwelling in them.

This article emphasizes emotional experience and direct connection with God—but apart from faith in the true gospel, there is no salvation and no Holy Spirit. While the language of “transformation” sounds inspiring, transformation doesn’t save. Only belief in the finished work of Christ does—and that belief is what brings the Holy Spirit within you.

Finally, the idea that Jesus didn’t say “get saved” but “lose your life to find it” is a conflation of two dispensationally different messages. Jesus was speaking to Jews under the law. The gospel we are accountable to today comes through Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, post-resurrection. We don’t “earn” salvation by transformation or surrender—we receive it by faith alone (Romans 4:5).

I encourage anyone reading to prayerfully consider what the Bible actually says in the antiochal line of preserved manuscripts (KJV etc) not what feels spiritual.

God’s Word divides truth from error, and the gospel truly is simple, powerful, and eternally secure—Once Saved (AFTER the sacrifice of Christ and in our times), Always Saved.

With love and truth in Christ.

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

Read my above comment! It is for you as well! Peace

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Delina H Bishop MD's avatar

This reminds me so much of many of the messages you see watching The CHOSEN. I suspect you would find it interesting.

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Delina H Bishop MD's avatar

Personally, I am a big fan of John 3:16

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Even better 1 Corinthians 15, the actual gospel of salvation which John 3:16 is referencing!

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

that show is SO unbiblical...

The most important point of ALL scripture is to get saved by trusting in Jesus's SACRIFICE for sins! THAT is the MYSTERY revealed to Paul FROM Jesus after His ressurection. That is the MOST IMPORTANT part of scripture leading to our current time: trust 1 Corinthians 15 1-4 and apply His sacrifice to your personal sins as the payment, otherwie NOTHINg else matters

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

Get saved huh? From what? Heaven and Hell are states of consciousness not places of reward and punishment! My creator of all does not judge me for learning which the Bible classifies mistakes as sin! Nothing could be further from the truth. You’ve been programmed brotha! The current bibles are altered dramatically!

The current KJ version. Shows 148,000 changes and omissions (see the Ethiopian Bible w/ 88 books)

Instead of the current 60 books! Who made this decision? Constantine a Pagan politician and ruler! Considered as an elite politician like today! What do politicians do? They lie, cheat, steal, etc…. They use their power to influence the world for the opposite

Of what the people need and want,

He murdered his own mother and booked his wife in oil because they refused to convert to his ideology to change everything to an exoteric historical event that never happened except on papyrus. The truth is known by only a few not meant for those who are asleep or programmed! If you need references I can provide plenty. Do your research. Buy the Ethiopian Bible w 88 books and see why they omitted them from the Bible! It will open your eyes brotha!

PEACE!

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Meekly Humblebum's avatar

Let’s get real here. You ask “Get saved from what?”—from God’s judgment, from eternal damnation, from the Lake of Fire described clearly in Revelation 20:15 (KJV): “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” This isn’t metaphor. Hell is not a "state of consciousness"; it’s a literal place of torment and separation from God, reserved for those who reject His Son. Consciousness, by the way, is a property of created beings—not a free-floating cosmic vibration. You have consciousness because God created you with a soul and spirit in His image (Genesis 1:26). That soul will either go to heaven or hell—two real, defined locations described repeatedly and unambiguously in Scripture. Youd rather belive in loosely based philospohies barely even understanding the context of scripture, than actual scripture which has WAY more empirical, archeological, cross referencable data than any of the nonsense you parrot all of which is ACTUALLY the "pROgRAmInG". And Im NOT your "brother", as a saved Christian, btw.

Your claim that “sin is just a mistake” is not only naive—it’s spiritually dangerous. Sin is transgression against God's law (1 John 3:4). It’s not “learning”—it’s rebellion. You’re not being judged for having questions or being human; you're judged for unbelief (John 3:18) and born into a sin nature, we are fallen beings in a cursed world..very evidently so . And the only escape is to believe the gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)—that Christ died for our sins, was buried, and rose again. That’s not programming. That’s divine revelation.

Now about this nonsense on the KJV being “dramatically altered”—that’s pure misinformation. you obvioulsy lack deep study and have just a basic grap of true manuscript history to say the least.. The King James Bible is translated from the Majority Text, preserved through Antioch—not Alexandria, not Egypt. The so-called 148,000 “changes” you parrot are based on comparisons to the corrupted Alexandrian line of manuscripts (like the Sinaiticus and Vaticanus), which are riddled with contradictions, deletions, and heretical footnotes. You're trusting Gnostic forgeries over the actual preserved Word of God. youre taking preserved data backed scripture and comparing it to known corruptions with unlimited "versions"..and labeling the one thats remained preserved as "the corruption"...

The Ethiopian Bible? It’s bloated with apocryphal and Gnostic writings that were rejected because they are not inspired—they contradict Scripture, contain mystical garbage, and often preach a works-based salvation, which is false. The 66-book canon was affirmed by faithful believers long before Constantine. And no, Constantine didn’t “write the Bible”—he didn't even choose the books. That’s historical revisionism from the same new age con-artists and self-proclaimed “truth seekers” who promote Egyptian gods, emerald tablets, and “higher consciousness” garbage. please dont act like you have the depth of knowledge to even understand this so just keep reading and get educated....

Your heroes like Jordan Maxwell and Billy Carson are not scholars; they’re deceivers. They preach a system that glorifies self, denies sin, and mocks the cross. You say we’re programmed? No—we’re regenerated. But you? You’re repeating lies passed down through occultists, mystics, and Gnostics who hate biblical authority. That’s the real programming. Satan’s oldest lie is that “you shall be as gods” (Genesis 3:5)—and the “consciousness” movement is just recycled serpent-speak. self worship self aggrandizing nonsense..

The truth is narrow (Matthew 7:13-14), and it’s only revealed to those who believe God’s Word. The KJV is cross-referenced, internally consistent, prophetically accurate, archaeologically validated, and historically unparalleled. Over 300 prophecies fulfilled in Christ alone. You don’t get that from emerald tablets or Ethiopian mystics—you get that from the inspired, preserved Word of God.

If you want “peace,” it only comes through Christ—“Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ” (Romans 5:1). Not through consciousness, not through occult books, not through your own effort. Only through faith in the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

your "creator of all" is non existant..the fact that you even HAVE that belief in some "creator" contradicts your own points as its baseless with no trail of scripture and history as the true God and Jesus have in abundancy. youre a joke. a lost soul following every predicatable luciferian breadcrumb.. whats next? some alice bailey? Helena blavatski?

Wake up. trust 1 Corinthians 15 or get ready for a future seared conscious and soul.. i warned ya kid.

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sadie's avatar

This reminds me of Dreher's latest book on Wonder... searching to see God in all around us. ....also... "those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth"... came to mind when you said we weren't commanded to worship. The psalms is full of it too... we are to worship Him but I get your point about following.

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

So what about the 1.8 ,billion year old human tooth recent found? hmmmm the Bible is the perceived word of god but god didn't write it at all. Man did and man has always proven psychologically to misperceive, mistranslate, and project their ownselves onto their writings. not to mention the Bible is a complete plagiarism. Do you thing Matthew, Mark Luke, John are middle eastern names? hmmmm..... How many civilizations have risen and fallen prior to the Bible? Hint at least 5 that we can prove but there are many more. You should do more research and not from a book that has over 140,000 changes made to it.

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Mary Matsushita's avatar

Dear Kenn,

It seems that you cling so much to the words on the pages. Let me tell you a story.

There was a time that a friend of mine was having trouble in her marriage so she was going to counseling with the church pastor. I was concerned that the pastor would not understand her full situation so I wrote him a letter to try and help my friend. I struggled so much to find the right words to put in the letter, so much that I even cried as I was writing. When I sent the letter it had my actual tears on the paper.

After that I was so stressed I picked up the Bible to read a bit to calm me down. I opened it randomly and read a sentence. Whoa - this whole amazing depth of vision and understanding opened up as if underneath the sentence. I had experienced before seeing a new understanding in something I had read before, but this was on a whole, huge, different level of understanding. Then I read the next sentence and the same thing happened - seeing, understanding this huge vision of what that sentence meant.

I stopped reading and asked God what was going on. And He showed me that as I had struggled so hard to find the right words to express my understanding of my friend, He had worked and struggled to put the best words down in His Word to try and convey His thought and heart and vision for mankind. But it was impossible to really convey the full vision in any mere words. I saw the words on the page as thin leaves floating on the surface of this deep ocean of vision and design and planning and execution and love. The thin words had no hope of ever coming close to the full picture of what God was trying to convey.

I believe that is why Jesus said to study the Word with prayer first. God's heart and vision are so much bigger than any words can carry.

That we love and care for another is the most important thing to work on.

All the best,

Mary

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Kenn Brooks's avatar

So you believe a book that originated from an evil Pagan leader who murdered his mother and booked his wife in oil and paid $ to scrubbed to write hs version of the original books leavin28 out is authentic? This is where you falter!

Here’s a clear example how ofc you are:

The Lord's Prayer...translated from Aramaic directly into English.

Rather than from Aramaic to Greek to Latin to English.

Oh cosmic Birther of all radiance and vibration,

soften the ground of our being and carve out a space within us where your Presence can abide.

Fill us with your creativity so that we may be empowered to bear the fruit of your mission.

Let each of our actions bear fruit in accordance with our desire.

Endow us with the wisdom to produce and share what each being needs to grow and flourish.

Untie the tangled threads of destiny that bind us, as we release others from the entanglement of past mistakes.

Do not let us be seduced by that which would divert us from our true purpose, but illuminate the opportunities of the present moment.

For you are the ground and the fruitful vision, the birth, power, and fulfillment, as all is gathered and made whole once again.

And So It Is!

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Mary Matsushita's avatar

Dear Kenn,

You say, "So you believe a book . ." Did you not read what I wrote? I experience and know some of God's vision and design and love for all of us. It is not the words themselves but our desire to develop a connection and personal relationship with God that is important and then we can move far beyond the words.

God designed that we would learn the basics of how to live from loving parents. It was to be some words, but mostly modeling the correct behavior which children would observe and copy from their parents. The core of our character is not in words.

I often say, "God said this." or, "God said that," but in reality, God almost never "says" anything, but shows me visions and processes and emotions, but when I try to tell someone else what I have been shown, all I have are words, I cannot show them the visions that God showed to me.

But thank you for writing the Lord's Prayer from Aramaic, it is really beautiful. I see it as complementing and enlarging the Lord's Prayer that I have known. There is no need for the two translations to fight with one another. Within the three eternal principles of love that I laid out, all things can work in harmony.

Sincerely,

Mary

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Mafdet17's avatar

My my my. All of what you’re writing about is mirroring the journey to this place that I am currently.

If I may… I chose church as an adult. Most earnestly was my search for truth and here I am today in awe of that journey, and His promise kept that He would lead me into all truth and understanding. I asked a God in darkness as a young adult to show me the truth. That’s all I wanted. No other others in my family are like me in this department. I became faithful in church Sunday Wednesday, and every time the doors were opened. I loved learning the word in this Bible believing fundamental church that I went, but they always seem to be missing the very thing that you’re mirroring in this thread. They couldn’t answer the questions that were coming from a maturing spirit in me and the challenges I was presenting about some of their hypocritical practices. But the curious thing most of all is that when I want to talk about other possibilities for some of the well received dogma they are not open to new possibilities of various “ applications of scripture”!

We are admonished to prove all things and hold fast to that which is good.

All is all.

They get agitated or ignore me altogether. But if they would crack that lid, they would find a conversation in there that is absolutely illuminating! And by this, I mean the lights get turned on to a bigger picture!

But they will not.

No wonder “stubbornness is as the sin of witchcraft.”

Even when you give them the scriptures, they’re unwilling to have that conversation. Like a spell they are under like the many spells we’ve all encountered from this conspiracy that that has “crept in unaware” and warped our lives into wrong directions.

If we simply even took one Bible verse seriously the one where we’re called ambassadors for Christ, what would that look like? What would my concerns be?

If the kingdom of God is within us ACT LIKE IT!

The law recognizes us. The declaration of independence recognizes us. Nature itself recognizes us when we add water to the dying plant.

Consider your worth dear ones, for you are worth far more than many sparrows and we have a job to do.❤️

EKO, it’s a pleasure to walk with you for a while and enjoy the reflection of your journey shared. “As iron sharpeneth iron so does a man sharpen the countenance of his friend.”✌🏼❤️⚔️

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Cathy Yonkers's avatar

WOW! What a perfectly beautiful explanation for what I felt as a young teenager, disappointed with the church and clergy, that had me walking away from attending church. I never lost my connection with G-d, though. Today I love singing the Hebrew prayers that address G-d , praise Him, and speak to Him.

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